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		<title>Comment on Think universal, act local by suyen</title>
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		<dc:creator>suyen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually really like that the officials are allowed to pray at meetings. One of my &#039;big policy ideas&#039; over the last two years is the constructivist one that people who make decisions, like UN ambassadors, delegates to the World Economic Forum, Ministers and heads of states at the G20 and negotiators at the WTO and climate conferences should be encouraged to start their day with the metta bhavana. I think that would really change the basis upon which decisions that affect the world (and not just humanity!) are made.

Also, growing up in Malaysia, which is an officially Muslim but multicultural country, we used to have Muslim prayers at school assembly, despite it being a Catholic girls school. I kind of liked it, especially when my best friend at that time, Aida, was leading the prayers! She was only about 10 or 11 at the time, and so humble and sweet about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually really like that the officials are allowed to pray at meetings. One of my &#8216;big policy ideas&#8217; over the last two years is the constructivist one that people who make decisions, like UN ambassadors, delegates to the World Economic Forum, Ministers and heads of states at the G20 and negotiators at the WTO and climate conferences should be encouraged to start their day with the metta bhavana. I think that would really change the basis upon which decisions that affect the world (and not just humanity!) are made.</p>
<p>Also, growing up in Malaysia, which is an officially Muslim but multicultural country, we used to have Muslim prayers at school assembly, despite it being a Catholic girls school. I kind of liked it, especially when my best friend at that time, Aida, was leading the prayers! She was only about 10 or 11 at the time, and so humble and sweet about it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The proper place for religion in British public life by Chintamani</title>
		<link>http://journaleast.com/the-proper-place-for-religion-in-british-public-life/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Chintamani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said all round.  I hope you will actually send your points to Will and Richard.  However (as I&#039;m afraid I keep saying) just because Christian belief is waning, it doesn&#039;t mean that we are thereby left with a nice, atheistic (albeit materialist/consumerist) &#039;space&#039; which can be filled with Dharma.  Another form of theism is on the rise, for which God belief is completely non-negotiable, and some of whose adherents at least certainly do want a theocracy.  Creative ways of addressing this are badly needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said all round.  I hope you will actually send your points to Will and Richard.  However (as I&#8217;m afraid I keep saying) just because Christian belief is waning, it doesn&#8217;t mean that we are thereby left with a nice, atheistic (albeit materialist/consumerist) &#8216;space&#8217; which can be filled with Dharma.  Another form of theism is on the rise, for which God belief is completely non-negotiable, and some of whose adherents at least certainly do want a theocracy.  Creative ways of addressing this are badly needed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;The Riots&#8217; at the Tricycle by A Buddhist view of religion in British public life</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Buddhist view of religion in British public life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Schumacher&#8217;s view that &#8216;we always need both freedom and order&#8216;, as I write about here. We do need safeguards in place to protect us from both these extremes. But we have largely been at [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Schumacher&#8217;s view that &#8216;we always need both freedom and order&#8216;, as I write about here. We do need safeguards in place to protect us from both these extremes. But we have largely been at [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Think universal, act local by Manjusiha</title>
		<link>http://journaleast.com/think-universal-act-local/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Manjusiha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;What is the proper place for religion in public life?&#039; Will Hutton debates with Richard Dawkins: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/19/religion-secularism-atheism-hutton-dawkins</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;What is the proper place for religion in public life?&#8217; Will Hutton debates with Richard Dawkins: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/19/religion-secularism-atheism-hutton-dawkins" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/19/religion-secularism-atheism-hutton-dawkins</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Think universal, act local by Manjusiha</title>
		<link>http://journaleast.com/think-universal-act-local/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>Manjusiha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Pullman joins religious row as Pickles allows council prayers&#039; - in today&#039;s Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/feb/17/bideford-council-appeal-prayer-ban?INTCMP=SRCH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Pullman joins religious row as Pickles allows council prayers&#8217; &#8211; in today&#8217;s Guardian: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/feb/17/bideford-council-appeal-prayer-ban?INTCMP=SRCH" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/feb/17/bideford-council-appeal-prayer-ban?INTCMP=SRCH</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on God is dead, Mr. Cameron by Chintamani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chintamani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is certainly good for matters such as these to be aired and discussed in a Buddhist context.  However, those of us who optimistically look towards a future that is &#039;free of the religious dogmas of old&#039;, and thus, hopefully, potentially Buddhist should not be complacent.  These views may well &#039;have been replaced, for so many of us, by the ‘common sense’ of science and the market&#039;, by the &#039;aggressive secularism&#039; recently identified by Baroness Varsi and others,  but this should not suggest that we will be free from a resurgent aggressive theism - and that theism may not be Christian.  As Buddhists living in the London Borough of Tower Hamlets - which is now 50% Muslim - we are surely aware of the activities and views in our Borough of some of the more extreme elements of the Muslim community:-
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8570506/Police-covered-up-violent-campaign-to-turn-London-area-Islamic.html
and as Buddhists in the wider world, I think we should also be aware of the situation in Southern Thailand, and its possible repercussions for wider Buddhist/Muslim relations.  God may be increasingly dead for many &#039;old&#039; Europeans, but for many &#039;new&#039; ones, Allah certainly isn&#039;t, and what Einstein stood for is complete blasphemy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is certainly good for matters such as these to be aired and discussed in a Buddhist context.  However, those of us who optimistically look towards a future that is &#8216;free of the religious dogmas of old&#8217;, and thus, hopefully, potentially Buddhist should not be complacent.  These views may well &#8216;have been replaced, for so many of us, by the ‘common sense’ of science and the market&#8217;, by the &#8216;aggressive secularism&#8217; recently identified by Baroness Varsi and others,  but this should not suggest that we will be free from a resurgent aggressive theism &#8211; and that theism may not be Christian.  As Buddhists living in the London Borough of Tower Hamlets &#8211; which is now 50% Muslim &#8211; we are surely aware of the activities and views in our Borough of some of the more extreme elements of the Muslim community:-<br />
 <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8570506/Police-covered-up-violent-campaign-to-turn-London-area-Islamic.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8570506/Police-covered-up-violent-campaign-to-turn-London-area-Islamic.html</a><br />
and as Buddhists in the wider world, I think we should also be aware of the situation in Southern Thailand, and its possible repercussions for wider Buddhist/Muslim relations.  God may be increasingly dead for many &#8216;old&#8217; Europeans, but for many &#8216;new&#8217; ones, Allah certainly isn&#8217;t, and what Einstein stood for is complete blasphemy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Religion for Atheists by wendy</title>
		<link>http://journaleast.com/religion-for-atheists/#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 22:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for that reply Manjusiha. I will think deeply about all you say and continue to explore Buddhism. I have a long way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for that reply Manjusiha. I will think deeply about all you say and continue to explore Buddhism. I have a long way to go.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Religion for Atheists by Manjusiha</title>
		<link>http://journaleast.com/religion-for-atheists/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>Manjusiha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Wendy

Thanks for your thoughtful comments. I found my way to Buddhism partly through reading Confessions of a Philosopher and Schopenhauer, and then more formally studying western philosophy, so I can relate to what you say about that. I co-led a series of seminars on Buddhism and Western Philosophy at the London Buddhist Centre recently, loosely based on Plato&#039;s allegory of the cave and looking at &#039;the good, the beautiful and the true&#039;. I&#039;ve attached a link to the talk about truth to the end of the original article above - I think this goes into some of the areas of interest to you. Hope you find it interesting and helpful.

This is what Schopenhauer said about his philosophy in relation to Buddhism: &quot;If I wished to take the results of my philosophy as the standard of truth, I should have to concede to Buddhism pre-eminence over the other [religions]. In any case, it must be a pleasure to me to see my doctrine in such close agreement with a religion that the majority of men on earth hold as their own.&quot;  The World as Will and Representation Vol. II.

Buddhists weren&#039;t historically that interested in objective truth - that&#039;s probably a big factor in why science never emerged from Chinese society, which was otherwise very advanced. Ultimately, though, both Schopenhauer and Buddhism would say that the distinction between subject and object is actually mind-made - it is an illusion, it&#039;s not how things really are. The world as it is in itself is not dualistic - that was Kant&#039;s great insight, which Schopenhauer developed further. Kant said that we can never apprehend the (&#039;noumenal&#039;) world-in-itself, only the (&#039;phenomenal&#039;) world of appearances. But Schopenhauer said that we can access the world-in-itself since we have access from the inside, as it were, to ourselves and our own &#039;inner&#039; experience of reality. 
 
This seeing through the distinction between self and other is one way, perhaps, of talking about the enlightenment-experience. I think each of us probably has some experience of transcending this distinction: whenever we act ethically or apprehend a great work of art, for instance, our sense of separateness is softened, and we can open into something much more expansive, positive and freeing. 

I would say that we don&#039;t &#039;have to&#039; believe or be open to anything as Buddhists. Buddhist teachings are there for us to test, to see if they are helpful. We trust our instincts, experience and those further along the path than we are to guide us towards a more and more beautiful, wise and compassionate way of being in the world. One thing I do know, though, is that there are people around who are much more spiritually advanced than I am and from whom I can learn and gain inspiration. And that, in a sense, is all I really need, regardless of whether this leads to Buddhahood (whatever that means).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wendy</p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughtful comments. I found my way to Buddhism partly through reading Confessions of a Philosopher and Schopenhauer, and then more formally studying western philosophy, so I can relate to what you say about that. I co-led a series of seminars on Buddhism and Western Philosophy at the London Buddhist Centre recently, loosely based on Plato&#8217;s allegory of the cave and looking at &#8216;the good, the beautiful and the true&#8217;. I&#8217;ve attached a link to the talk about truth to the end of the original article above &#8211; I think this goes into some of the areas of interest to you. Hope you find it interesting and helpful.</p>
<p>This is what Schopenhauer said about his philosophy in relation to Buddhism: &#8220;If I wished to take the results of my philosophy as the standard of truth, I should have to concede to Buddhism pre-eminence over the other [religions]. In any case, it must be a pleasure to me to see my doctrine in such close agreement with a religion that the majority of men on earth hold as their own.&#8221;  The World as Will and Representation Vol. II.</p>
<p>Buddhists weren&#8217;t historically that interested in objective truth &#8211; that&#8217;s probably a big factor in why science never emerged from Chinese society, which was otherwise very advanced. Ultimately, though, both Schopenhauer and Buddhism would say that the distinction between subject and object is actually mind-made &#8211; it is an illusion, it&#8217;s not how things really are. The world as it is in itself is not dualistic &#8211; that was Kant&#8217;s great insight, which Schopenhauer developed further. Kant said that we can never apprehend the (&#8216;noumenal&#8217;) world-in-itself, only the (&#8216;phenomenal&#8217;) world of appearances. But Schopenhauer said that we can access the world-in-itself since we have access from the inside, as it were, to ourselves and our own &#8216;inner&#8217; experience of reality. </p>
<p>This seeing through the distinction between self and other is one way, perhaps, of talking about the enlightenment-experience. I think each of us probably has some experience of transcending this distinction: whenever we act ethically or apprehend a great work of art, for instance, our sense of separateness is softened, and we can open into something much more expansive, positive and freeing. </p>
<p>I would say that we don&#8217;t &#8216;have to&#8217; believe or be open to anything as Buddhists. Buddhist teachings are there for us to test, to see if they are helpful. We trust our instincts, experience and those further along the path than we are to guide us towards a more and more beautiful, wise and compassionate way of being in the world. One thing I do know, though, is that there are people around who are much more spiritually advanced than I am and from whom I can learn and gain inspiration. And that, in a sense, is all I really need, regardless of whether this leads to Buddhahood (whatever that means).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Religion for Atheists by wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Manjusiha,
I have found my way to Buddhism and your website, through a reading of philosophy and in particular the thoughts of Schopenhauer to whom I was introduced by reading the Confessions of a Philosopher by Bryan Magee. As an atheist in search of something more than all that that entails, Buddhism seems to be a, maybe the only, genuine way to acknowledge metaphysical possibilities without pretending you know what they are, and a way to try to explore the human urge to find a basis and a motivation for the compassion that is needed to underpin a non utilitarian morality. 
I am not a philosopher but I have turned to it over the years to try to find answers/meaning. It is only this time, that I have found myself led to explore Buddhism and i find that the prospect is making me feel excited and full of anticipation. 

I was promptrd to write today because I understand the last writer&#039;s rejection of the word truth but feel that it can be admitted into Buddhism and that therin les one of its greatest attractions to the atheist. I feel that a Buddhist should admit that meditation etc could serve no greater purpose than relaxation as there is no real evidence it can or has done more other than hearsay evidence. To say more than that woudl be to join the religions of the world in endorsing wishful thinking.
Only if Buddhism accepts its limited access to assertions of objective truth can the rational atheist find a home there. Any benefits that emerge from Buddhist practice such as personal insights into the human condition and cosequent changes in personal behaviour, emotional responses and motivation, must surely be described as wonderful, mysterious but essentially subjective outcomes.
Would you say that in order to call oneself a Buddhist you have to believe in the possibility or personal enlightenment or just that you have to be open to the possibility that it might be possible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Manjusiha,<br />
I have found my way to Buddhism and your website, through a reading of philosophy and in particular the thoughts of Schopenhauer to whom I was introduced by reading the Confessions of a Philosopher by Bryan Magee. As an atheist in search of something more than all that that entails, Buddhism seems to be a, maybe the only, genuine way to acknowledge metaphysical possibilities without pretending you know what they are, and a way to try to explore the human urge to find a basis and a motivation for the compassion that is needed to underpin a non utilitarian morality.<br />
I am not a philosopher but I have turned to it over the years to try to find answers/meaning. It is only this time, that I have found myself led to explore Buddhism and i find that the prospect is making me feel excited and full of anticipation. </p>
<p>I was promptrd to write today because I understand the last writer&#8217;s rejection of the word truth but feel that it can be admitted into Buddhism and that therin les one of its greatest attractions to the atheist. I feel that a Buddhist should admit that meditation etc could serve no greater purpose than relaxation as there is no real evidence it can or has done more other than hearsay evidence. To say more than that woudl be to join the religions of the world in endorsing wishful thinking.<br />
Only if Buddhism accepts its limited access to assertions of objective truth can the rational atheist find a home there. Any benefits that emerge from Buddhist practice such as personal insights into the human condition and cosequent changes in personal behaviour, emotional responses and motivation, must surely be described as wonderful, mysterious but essentially subjective outcomes.<br />
Would you say that in order to call oneself a Buddhist you have to believe in the possibility or personal enlightenment or just that you have to be open to the possibility that it might be possible?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should Buddhists wear poppies? by Manjusiha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manjusiha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment Narapa. I love the Orwell quote. I think there&#039;s a lot in that. 

On the inability and failure of our politicians, please see my piece on blame and fate here: http://journaleast.com/the-blame-and-fate-culture/. In short, I think it&#039;s so easy to blame others for failures - politicians, bankers, whoever. One of the things I love about the Dharma is the radical way in which it invites us to take responsibility for ourselves and our society - the way it shows us, in fact, that we are already responsible without, perhaps, fully realising it. So if our politicians are failing then I would say it&#039;s because we are failing (although I wouldn&#039;t personally use that word). Instead of &#039;How have they got it so wrong?&#039;, the questions for me would be something like &#039;What can I do to improve things?&#039;, &#039;How can I be better?&#039; &#039;How can I have a more positive influence on society around me?&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Narapa. I love the Orwell quote. I think there&#8217;s a lot in that. </p>
<p>On the inability and failure of our politicians, please see my piece on blame and fate here: <a href="http://journaleast.com/the-blame-and-fate-culture/" rel="nofollow">http://journaleast.com/the-blame-and-fate-culture/</a>. In short, I think it&#8217;s so easy to blame others for failures &#8211; politicians, bankers, whoever. One of the things I love about the Dharma is the radical way in which it invites us to take responsibility for ourselves and our society &#8211; the way it shows us, in fact, that we are already responsible without, perhaps, fully realising it. So if our politicians are failing then I would say it&#8217;s because we are failing (although I wouldn&#8217;t personally use that word). Instead of &#8216;How have they got it so wrong?&#8217;, the questions for me would be something like &#8216;What can I do to improve things?&#8217;, &#8216;How can I be better?&#8217; &#8216;How can I have a more positive influence on society around me?&#8217;</p>
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